Comments on Bonsoir | يسعد مساكم: A British Union recruits for the Israeli Army!

The usual hyperbolic language, but what would you ...

2008-02-14T03:28:00.000Z

The usual hyperbolic language, but what would you expect........

In reference to 2 points.

1. You dont enlist in the Israeli army if you do Sar-el, you VOLUNTEER. Just like if you volunteer at a hospital, you dont become a doctor or a nurse or any sort of medical profession. So they would not be breaking the 1870 foreign enlistment act.

2nd point: The survey you referred to about what British Jews consider themselves to be was carried out by that well known Zionist newspaper the Jewish Chronicle not IVJ.

While it said that only half of the Jewish community described themselves as Zionist. It said that only one quarter did not describe themselves as Zionist.

It also said that "78% of UK Jews 'care deeply' about Israel against 5% who don't"

For 'care deeply' about Israel you might probably want to understand the word Zionist (ie. were glad that Israel was established and feel revulsion at Suicide Bombings, support Israel in a general way, have no qualms going for holidays there and would be deeply against Israel ceasing to exist.

Ok, sorry, I misread your original post - technica...

2007-05-28T12:21:00.000+01:00

Ok, sorry, I misread your original post - technically the Jewish students are breaking the Enlistment Act. But this is an Act that dates back to 1870 and is completely irrelevant for the 21st century - trust me, working for the IDF is far more beneficial to the West and world well-being than working against it, although I'll never change your mind. And in any case, Israel is at war with a large-scale terror force whose targets include Britain (heard of 7/7?). So, actually, there's a strong argument that Britain is NOT at peace with Israel's enemies.

Constant attacks from its neighbours: 1948, 1967, 1973, 2 intifadas including terror campaigns, Hizbollah last year.

And should Israel be apologising for having 21st-century means to defend itself? No, in a word.

Excuse me! Are you sure you understood what you re...

2007-05-28T10:19:00.000+01:00

Excuse me! Are you sure you understood what you read?!

It's not Britain that's t war with Israel, it's Israel that's at a state of war with most Arab countries, and non of these is at war with UK.

Constant attacks from its neighbours? mmmm, interesting, let's see, Jordan... Peace, Egypt... Peace, Syria... Saying a lot doing nothing, Lebanon... occupied shabaa, imprisoned Lebanese and continuous flights over their land, not to mention the war against Lebanon last year (and let me remind you that its excuse was to free 2 soldiers, and guess what, know one is giving them a damn now!).

Palestinians, if you are telling me the Palestinian resistance with their tiny rockets are comparable to the IDF with their latest technology tanks and airfighters, and that even when they are under occupation, killed, kidnapped, tortured, humilted every day don't have the right to resist the occupation with what they could manufacture themselves)?!

If you don't know go and read, if you know but you are spitting false propaganda then zip it and find yourself somewhere else to bark.

Your argument lacks any logic. Since when was Brit...

2007-05-27T23:32:00.000+01:00

Your argument lacks any logic. Since when was Britain at war with Israel? A student who goes to serve in the IDF does so to support the defence of the State of Israel, which is under constant attack from its neighbours. This is different from a British citizen who goes to Iraq to fight *against his own country*. The latter is illegal under the Foreign Enlistment Act that you cite. The former is a completely different matter.